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Dafne Canales 00:00
Okay, so what I'm going to talk about today is marketing funnels. I'm going to talk about, like how the psychology of, of people work in terms of buying and bringing awareness to your brands. And I'm going to show you a case study. It's a LinkedIn cold calling campaign that I've been doing lately that's been really successful, and it applies all the things I'm teaching you. So, I just want to give you a little bit of my background, so you understand who your speaker is. And like the, the information that I'm bringing to you is all based on experience. So I started mark, like, yeah, just being obsessed with marketing when I was probably like 17 years old, is read every book for Jay Conrad Levinson, his guerilla marketing books, and attended every workshop seminar that I could and I built, I started, I was a dance studio. So I had a belly dance academy. And it grew into like the, into the largest Academy in Western Canada, and one of the largest in North America. And, and I used all these different marketing techniques. So everything I did was all around, getting people to come in and try out what I was doing. And it was really different at the time. And after I had my son, I decided to go back to school. So I did an MBA and I, all the things that I learned in that company, I wanted to help other small businesses. So I started developing software, in 2012, like a small business software, and then just getting into helping bigger companies and running more, it's all about running experiments. And at a point in time, I had about 25 employees in my marketing company. And, and then in 2018, I had a really bad snowboarding accident, and I got a double brain injury from the accident. So I couldn't talk I couldn't read, I couldn't, you know, I couldn't drive. And it took me almost like over two years to recover from that. And what ended up happening with my business is that I lost, I lost everything essentially. Be but I hid the injury because I thought that my, my clients would not want to work with me because I was, you know, like non functioning. And I ended up losing all my clients because I wasn't there to hold their hands. So. So that was a really hard lesson. And what happened I remember waking up one day, and it was like me, probably 2018 Yeah, prime may 2018. And, and I was like, I don't know, anybody in Calgary, I've been like working so hard on my business that, like I don't even know where to get my next client, like how are we going to survive. And so I had to start from scratch, like building my reputation getting known in the community and, you know, build my client base again. And, and so I did that. I'll tell you guys a little bit how I did that. And I ended up I guess the two years later, I was back at like half a million dollars in revenue. So I feel very proud of, of being able to turn that around. And then now because of COVID happened again. I lost all of my customers because they were in like airport, like airport, parking, hotels, fitness. They're all, as we know, shut down. So but this time, I totally know, I've changed my business model, I'm actually using all of my strategies to connect injured persons with personal injury attorneys and using my software and everything. So I've been able to, you know, the long story is, I've been able to reinvent myself because of these tools that I know. And I can, I can start from zero and you know, grow again. And now I'm working with just amazing companies. in Silicon Valley, San Francisco's I started going a year ago, I started going every month to San Francisco to learn and I got accepted into a program there. So just been running tons of experience. And the last little thing I wanted to share is that I actually developed my own formula, I call it the seven second advertising formula. And and it's about getting people to know what you do in seven seconds or less. And it's on everything that you do so like your social media posts in seven seconds or less. Do I know what you're talking about? When you meet somebody at a networking event, seven seconds, and it's all based on all of this research that shows that humans judge right like you. We're living in this really fast paced world and so you got to tell them in seven seconds or less why they should you know, pause and take a look at what you're doing. So it's really important to to get that seven seconds story down.
Dafne Canales 05:03
Okay, um, I have this resource that you guys can download if you go to Spartan spark comm slash landing page. And if Christie you can maybe tuck this into the chat, then everybody can can access it. And it's like a, it's a landing page template. And what a landing page means is, it's, it's like your sales page. So your sales page is so important, because whatever everything that you do, you need to have one page on your website or if you don't have a website, it could be like one maybe something on Facebook, you know how there's like you can make like a face, it depends if your business to business or, or business to consumer. So if your business to consumer, you want to make sure that you have a Facebook business page, and then if your business to business, you want to make sure you have a LinkedIn business page and it's up and you can, you can create like a little bit of a sales page. And I've got some tools there men talk about that. So this diagram here, we put it together to kind of show all the different ways that you can advertise or get the word out about what you're doing. So we've got to talk a little bit about each of them. So at the top, we've got online listings, Yelp, Better Business Bureau homestar. So those are like places that have these listings about your company. And the reason that you want to be on these things is because it's going to help your search engine optimization. So search engine optimization means being showing up on page one of Google and it's the you'll get the best clients from people searching for you. And then finding it because those people searching, I already want what you have, and you want to show up for the right words. But the thing with search engine optimization is it's really hard to do like it takes a lot of work. And this is all these technical things behind it. So some of the things that help is being on these websites like Yelp or Better Business Bureau, so that they they point back to your website, or that you get found. So one of the things that I always recommend is that you Google your business name, or you Google yourself, and you see what's on there, and you start to fill those pieces out, try to get get on the internet, essentially, we talk about Facebook. So Facebook is an amazing tool, we've run so many awesome experiments on Facebook, we have an orthodontist client, and we get them about 50 new color. So we run these Facebook marketing funnel campaigns, and they get 50 clients signing up for potential clients. And when they, when they call them all back, they come into the into the practice, they're converting about 50% of those 52. Yeah, probably 50 to 70% of those people. So if you know how to use Facebook ads, it's like, it's like making like you're making money because you know how to get clients calling you about whatever it is that you're selling. So Facebook is super, super powerful. They have so many data points on people, which is is kind of scary. But from a marketing point of view, you can reach out to the specific people. And there's all these tools, or I guess strategies, not tools that you can use to get people to know you, like you trust you using Facebook ads, we've got Google My Business down the side there and in Google My Business, that is, you know, when you're like looking for a restaurant, and then there's like that little panel on the right hand side, that's Google My Business. And it's a free listing. So if you go and you know, type in business.google.com, you can create your own listing. So that's Google My Business. And I would recommend everybody go there, add pictures, you can even post articles that's going to help people find you.
Dafne Canales 09:07
I talked a little bit about the search engine. So the search engines are really hard to get on page one. And as you grow your business. So the search engine optimization was actually the software that we developed. And it's the software that I still use to to do all these different projects. So I know a lot about it. Even though I'm not the technical. I'm not the programmer. I have team managed teams of programmers to do this kind of stuff. So I learned a lot about it. So search engine optimization, you just got to be really careful when if you're ever going to hire an expert, because it's kind of like a mechanic where you can't tell what they're up to and if they're doing a good job. So with search engine optimization, there's a couple pieces to it and one is the technical piece so your your website needs to have these technical components. Like being really fast, and just the way that it set up. So that's one piece. But the second piece that you can do on your own is the search engines want to see a lot of content. So you're there, you're gonna be on page one of Google, if you're like, if you're the absolute expert, and you talk about it. So it's about creating content, writing articles, and think of yourself like the Wikipedia of your industry or your area. So the more you write, the more the search engines will start to go find your information. So the big thing, the big lesson there is, is to, to always create a lot of content. And the way that you can create content is, I find a super easy way right now is meeting with somebody on the zoom that you want to talk to, you know, teach what you do, and then just record that, and then use this program called otter.ai. It's o tt er.ai. And, and get that transcribed. And you can create some awesome articles just from the conversation that you have with someone teaching them what it is that you do, or different parts of what you do. Twitter is important because again, because of the search engines,
Dafne Canales 11:08
I'm I'm not like a super big Twitter user. It's more it's not as popular in Calgary as it is in Silicon Valley. But you do need to make sure you have a profile on Twitter, because again, when you Google yourself, that will show up. So you want to show up as many different ways as you can. Instagram, we all love Instagram, it's so pretty. The problem with Instagram, from a business owner perspective is it has to be so pretty that it just takes so much work to to get that going. And that that graphic design and those kind of things are pretty expensive. So I'm gonna say if your business to consumer, Instagram is an amazing tool, and there's this course by Kat Conroy, it's k t. co ROY, she has an amazing Instagram course that I would highly recommend. So if you're business to consumer, and she teaches you how to do you like your own photos and design them and post different things, she's like, amazing woman. So I would recommend that one for Instagram. We've got over here, we got the newsletter, and newsletters are super, super important. So you're doing all this work to get noticed. you're posting on social media. And then you want to make sure that you capture people's emails because especially in Canada, there's a law where you can't just email someone without their permission. And so you need to have a wait for people to give you their email so that you can communicate with them. So all this content that we talked about the that you're creating, that you're sharing, you want to send it to them and make sure that your newsletters are 80% valuable and 20% salesy, so sometimes I find women and don't aren't salesy, it's usually my male students who are more of like a sell, sell, sell. And with women, sometimes it's like, we're giving too much, too much helpful information and then not enough selling. So you always have to ask for the sale. So always have what it's called a call to action. So always let your customer know, you know what it is that you want them to do. So in the newsletter, you could send something out once a month. And just again, maybe like you have four little things, little tips that will help your reader and then one The last thing is the call to action, hey, you know, join, you know, come visit my website or buy from me or whatever it is that you guys are doing. And with the newsletter, yeah, it just has to be like a lot of valuable information otherwise people unsubscribe, right? So just be really, I guess, mindful about what you share in your newsletter. The other thing about the newsletters, how do you get somebody to sign up what I recommend, again, on that, you create another little sales page and you let people know, the benefits of signing up to newsletter, what are they going to get? Maybe you give them a free something so like a free resource is always a really good thing to give. Like, like what I did with that DIY, you know, dude, do your do your own landing page or something like that. So find something in your business that you can give away. And, and I think, you know, a lot of companies are like 10% off it, I really don't think that that's as enticing. It should be something more that helps your your customer. We talked about Facebook and finally LinkedIn. LinkedIn is such, again, an amazing tool that is underutilized. And the reason that it's not used as much is because it's really clunky. It's really awkward. But for business to business, it's again, like a gem. And there's so many different things that you can do on LinkedIn and I'm going to talk about that a little bit more today. Because people don't really know, all the different tools that are the things that are possible on LinkedIn. So that's covered everything. Okay, oops. Oh, no, I don't know how to go back. There it is. Okay. I have some stats on LinkedIn that I thought were super interesting.
Dafne Canales 15:37
where a lot of people don't know that you can get customers on LinkedIn, they just see the little chat thing going on. And but there's a lot of business being done on LinkedIn. So you can see some of these stats here, lead generation, I ran a campaign from, I think it was September, October, November, for a company and event company in Silicon Valley. And we were able to, it was like a really short campaign, because usually, campaigns take maybe like six months to ramp up. So it was an emergency trying to save their business during COVID. And we were able to bring in $1.3 million in into their pipeline, certain proposals. So I really believe in, in LinkedIn, and it has to be very strategic, the way that you connect with people. And so what I do on LinkedIn is have conversations with people. So I use, there's this thing called LinkedIn Sales Navigator, and you can find people's contact them or sorry, you can find the type of person that you want to contact. So if you're looking for a CEO, you can go find them, and then you can start, you make a list and you can start having conversations with them. And really again, like valuable conversations, not salesy conversation. So it's just like your newsletter, where you're like, sharing resources, and, you know, having a human conversation just like you would in at a networking event. So it's like, digital networking.
Dafne Canales 17:14
Okay, so this one is like a really important fact, because a lot of times, when you try to go to do your marketing, you try a bunch of things. And the I think the problem again, with marketing is, is that it's it's really expensive to run marketing experiments. So if you don't have somebody who's guiding you, it can be very expensive to to spend a lot of money and time on something that's might not work. And the other thing with marketing is that it takes time to build up. So as you can see here, 10 pieces of content are consumed before a purchasing decision is made. So when when somebody trusts you enough to buy from you, and let's say you're selling something small, it's a lot faster to to make a sale, if you're talking to the right people. But if you're talking to like totally the wrong audience, then you're you're gonna struggle to sell anything, right. So if you're trying to sell a bikini to somebody, and none of it, that's not going to work, right, no matter how much you talk to them about it, well, maybe they can wear it at home or something, they might make a couple of sales, but it doesn't mean that you're that you're going to you're going to you know, kill it with your business so, so I just want you to keep that in mind that it takes a while you want to have like a kind of like a plan built out and you want to have a marketing funnel. So I'm going to talk about the marketing funnel after this slide. So this I really like this diagram, because I think I can here's my pointer. Yeah. Okay, so this is like people who already use your stuff or let's say your friends and family and sometimes friends and family, don't buy what you're selling, because it's, it's not for them. And then what we're trying to do is bring more awareness with our marketing campaigns. So that your, your new potential customer evaluates you, and and you become their helpful advisor. So that's what you are, that's how you always want to position yourself.
Dafne Canales 19:25
Okay, so this is the marketing funnel. I'm just gonna leave my pointer there. So, what you need to do at the beginning of the top of your funnel is that awareness piece so awareness means nobody knows who you are and what you do. And and you need to let the world know so if your business to consumer, you're going to use Facebook to bring awareness to your brand, and the way that we do it on Facebook is we run these ads that are okay, well first of all, you need to know who your customer is. So let me let me take a step back And then talk about that for a second. So when you're one of the things that I made a really big mistake on in my business is that I was kind of, because it's marketing, I can help anybody. So I would just, I would take anybody who needed help take them on as a customer. And then I'd have to learn all about their, their business, their industry. And so it was really time consuming. And the other thing is that people couldn't refer me they were like, well, it definitely does work for everyone like I, the federal and provincial government used to hire me to help companies with their marketing and to help them grow strategically. They used to, but they still do. And, and it was, but they couldn't say, oh, Daffy specializes and orthodontics or deftly specializes in fitness studios, because it was like everything. So I really learned that hard lesson that I need to be super, super hyper focused on what it is that I do so that people can refer to me, my latest project is connecting injured persons with personal injury attorneys. And that's like, really specific. So now everybody knows exactly who to send me. And you know, who I want to meet when I'm out there. And so then even more specific, I work in San Diego, like, that's my target audience is in San Diego. So then what I do is, if I was, you know, this is to consumer, I would create a campaign that's just in San Diego, looking for injured people, right. And if I didn't have that, that really specific focus, I would spend all this money, like, Oh, I got to do San Diego, and it goes to San Francisco, I got to do, you know, Boston, so I would spend all this money not finding my people that I need. Right. So that's on Facebook on. So my new business is, is it's a double sided marketplace. And what that means is I have to find injured people, and I have to find an attorney. So it's really interesting, because my injured people, they're on Facebook, that's business to consumer, and my attorneys, my lawyers, they're on LinkedIn. So I'm like living in these two worlds that I totally love and know how to find them. So on LinkedIn, then it's my attorneys in San Diego. So what I'm going to do with on LinkedIn Sales Navigator is do a search for personnel, not just any attorney, personal injury attorneys in San Diego. And when you do that search, if you find over 6000 people to connect with 10,000 people, then you've got
Dafne Canales 22:38
you've got a good audience. But if it's like 20,000 50,000, then it's too broad. So you got to keep, you know, narrowing that down to say, Where am I going to start? I'm helping a company that they're selling corporate training programs, and they're like, well, any business can use us. And, and yes, any business can. But where do you start? Right? So so what I helped them what like you need to just really brainstorm with somebody that you you know, just anybody in your in your groups and just really try to get to that one place? And if you don't know if that's the right place. So for example, with this company, we said, okay, why don't we do a software companies in Alberta, right, so that's a focus. And I can go find, you know, I start, I think, to start asking everybody who do you know, in a software company, because software companies grow really fast. So we just got to find the right target audience to go after. And you're gonna hear this over and over again, and I heard it for like, I don't know, 20 years. And it took me a long time. And now I totally get it. But that was my biggest lesson. And I, that was a hard lesson because I built this business that wasn't just, like really focused in anything. And then what happened is I couldn't scale and I really struggled to get clients, and I struggled with my messaging. And so that I think is my most painful lesson. And the lesson that I want to share with you guys is if you can narrow down your audience and then test like to sell to that audience and develop everything for them. So imagine if you have this website, and all it talks like with, let's say, with mine, it's, you know, personal injury attorneys and this is how you should grow your business if you're a personal injury attorney and you know, the here's some resources and am I just talking to that person and so they feel like I get them and I totally do I know everything about personal injury attorneys in California. So if you're able to have that conversation, then you you get to like that know you like you trust you model, but if I was I had this website that was like, Oh, I'm great for orthodontists and fitness studios and lawyers. Here. It's kind of like people get lost. So that's, I hope that you know, messages coming across. So awareness is about running, starting those conversations. So with attorneys interest is when you kind of get like into the conversation and you're like, hey, I've got this, this, you know, I'm gonna share this PDF with you, this is what my business does. And if you can get your business onto like a one page PDF, then you you know, you can start sharing that with people. And, and your one page PDF needs to have a headline sub headline. And, you know, five bullet points about what you do what's in it for them always thinking about what's in it for the other person, the person that you're selling to on Facebook, and that those strategies are you run really generic ad sorry, you run a broad audience. So you were like, I want all women within 30 to 65, in Calgary, and then your ad has to be just really specific. So remember that seven second rule, everything needs to pass the seven second rule in seven seconds or less, do I understand what you do. And then you start seeing who clicks on your ad. And then from from those clicks, then you run a second audience, and you just run specific ads to the people who clicked because you've kind of found who needs what you have. And and that first ad obviously, is so critical. One of the things that we found is videos on Facebook do really well. But again, now on video, you've got about three seconds, you've got a three second attention span. So you have to get your messaging in a way that in those first three seconds, people understand if they're the right fit, and and what's in it for them. So for example, with the personal injury, have you been injured in a car accident. And because I'm targeting San Diego, I don't have to say San Diego, so that's really specific. And then the second sentence that I write is don't make the mistakes we did. So that makes it interesting, and people stay and watch the video.
Dafne Canales 27:01
So consideration and intent is part of the lead nurturing piece. So that's where you, somebody clicks on your ad, you've got their interests, and then you send them to some website where they live got more information, or, you know, they're starting to learn more about you. And then evaluation again, like further deeper into more information. They're evaluating what you do so. So that's why it's super important to have these things on a website. Or if you don't have a website, just like a one pager. And on LinkedIn, you don't need a, you actually don't have to have a website, you can get started with this article on LinkedIn. So if you click on your profile on LinkedIn, and you you can see posts, but you can also do these articles. So maybe just Google that it's a little bit different. So what I do is, when I'm messaging people on LinkedIn, I'll send them a link to the article that I've created on LinkedIn. So I think one of the important things about lead generation, whether you're on Facebook or LinkedIn, is to try to stay on the platform. So you try. So through the awareness, interest consideration, parts of your of your campaign, you try not to make them go to your website, because people don't like to leave, you know how when you're scrolling through Facebook, and you want to click somewhere in that kind of leave you like last year Facebook Mojo, so you want to keep them on Facebook. So everything should be like inside Facebook, until they're ready. So until like intent, evaluation, that's when they're going to your website to find more information. So the same thing with LinkedIn, try to stay within LinkedIn. So send somebody a post that you wrote, instead of saying, hey, go go to my website. So that's kind of like a psychological thing. Okay, um, so the, this one's just a really quick slide. Most marketing, like most companies do kind of like a 20% marketing effort, and then they do 80% of the effort is, yeah, 80% of the effort is human work, right? So they'll do like some small marketing stuff. And then the rest will be like, you know, phone calls, follow ups, or sorry, like educating someone so they try to get on the phone, or like some kind of a conversation right here. And then they have to, you have to like explain what it is that you do. And you know, it's like everything's hidden behind the curtain. And what the way you were, you need to flip that model and have an 80% shoot ammo, this mouse 80% should be up front. So you should tell your story as much as you can, online because that's where people are browsing. That's where they're going to see you. So as much as you can share everything about your company about your project. Let people Follow your journey as you're building your business because there'll be able to refer people to you or, you know, that's how you're going to get known. And when somebody finds you, and they can read all these things about you, so even personal things, on your like about section you're talking about what a great, you know, business person you are, but also, you know, what a great human you are, or human things about yourself. That's really important because people do business with people, not products. And so just, you know, telling the story, it's really, really important to tell a story. This is just the stat from the first seven seconds are critical. So all these, these research shows that if you can capture somebody's attention for seven seconds, they're likely to stay and pay attention for many minutes, which is a long time online. But if you can't get their attention in seven seconds there, they're going to leave right away. So that's what's critical there. Um, so posting on LinkedIn is, it's about sharing expertise. So when whenever you post anywhere on Facebook or LinkedIn, this is part of the little case study that I wanted to show you. It's about, you want to share your expertise as much as possible. Okay, so this is how, like, this is like the structure of a LinkedIn, I call them cold calling campaigns or nurturing campaigns. And this this same structure is kind of you would use this on Facebook as well. So what you want to in a way, so there's just a little bit different, but I wanted to show you like the different elements that you need to to have like a successful campaign. So I'm going to focus on LinkedIn. And I mentioned before that you need a sale, like a one page sales letter. And let me see if I have.
Dafne Canales 32:05
Yeah, okay, I have some examples. Okay. Okay, so I'm just gonna go through the example. So you need a one page sales letter, you need a sales page on your website. But you can also do something similar using a LinkedIn article, if you don't have a website. This is the LinkedIn article. So we use that as part of the campaign, you need to develop a connection script. So a script of what you're going to say to people and you know, a sequence of how you're going to say it, you want to optimize your profile. So what that means is making sure that when people get your message, they go to your LinkedIn profile, they, they see what you're up to, and you have everything like laid out for them. So that they they trust you faster, you need to know who your ideal client is, without being super, super clear on your ideal client. The campaign doesn't work, you need to have some kind of a software for appointment setting. Oops, there. And, and then we need to, you know, figure out, like, have a schedule for replies, and then have a schedule or plan for LinkedIn post. I know that many of you do stuff on Facebook. So on Facebook, this would be like, you need to have that initial ad that captures people's attention you need to have. So that first ad is that video, you need to have the second ad that you send to the people who click on the video. So you need to have like a series of column assets, you know, built. And that would be I guess, like, the connection script is like, how am I going to have this conversation with with my clients. So I think it's just, if you work backwards from your project, so you're like, I want to have 50 clients. So what that means is I need to have, I'm gonna, you know, I need 100 people to talk to me on the phone or email me, because I know that 50% of those people are going to turn into clients, right? So I'm just working backwards. Okay, so if I need 100 people to talk to me, then I might need, I don't know, like 1000 people to to see my ad not see the ad because that's a different conversion, but 1000 people to click on my ad, because 10% of those are going to be 100. And then 50% of those are going to be 50. So you want to work backwards like that to figure out what you need. And then you also want to work backwards on your campaign. So okay, if I need 50 people, what are all the different things I need to have in place to get those 50 people so I'm going to run an ad and then what's going to happen I'm going to you know, then the second thing is going to happen this third so you have to write a little you know, you do post it notes and kind of just think about your customers journey from the you know, from being a stranger to connecting with you and what are all the different pieces you need to have in place to to make That happened. Um, so this was a LinkedIn campaign. So the goal was to have 16 conversations which led to three sales. And what what you do on LinkedIn is you look for keywords, you look for company side position, industry location, and then you have to think about what you're offering. So I'm not sure if you've heard of the value proposition, or the business model canvas where you can map out what I'm, I'm a really big fan of the business model canvas. And if you also Google that, you'll, you'll see how it works. And there's tons of awesome videos about that, but, but it's like understanding what value you deliver to your customers what problem you're solving. And I know when I was, you know, a new entrepreneur, this was always like, just like, just keep going in circles on this. So it's like an forever thing that you have to do and keep asking yourself these questions. What, what is like, what's the value? What's the value? How am I different? What problem Am I solving? How am I solving it better than somebody else is being like super clear on this so that you're, you have it down in that 32nd pitch?
Dafne Canales 36:17
Okay, so this is my secret formula for how a sales page should work that one page PDF, and you would actually do exactly the same thing for a website. So you can see there, we've got a headline. So like a really big headline. So in seven seconds, you know, you know, Kennedy events will show you what virtual holiday party success looks like. So we're we were selling holiday virtual holiday parties, from September to November for big, like, companies over 200 employees. And then the second, this is like our second sub headline. What's this about? Right? So this is another like, really important line that you need to have there like message there. And then you've got the little paragraph, you know, what's this about? This part here is super important, it's a testimonial, because it gives you a third party credibility. And if you don't have testimonials, yet, from the work that you're doing, you want to start getting them. And it could just be it doesn't have to be a testimonial about your product, it could just be about you about you being a great person. So you definitely want to get some of those and use them in your marketing material. This part here, like I mentioned before, is it's what's in it for me, what did they get. So you always want to use break up this text with bullet points, because it's easier and faster for people to read. So we've got like the mini paragraph, testimonial the bullet points. And then I love the the 123 of getting started, it just paints like a really clear picture of what it's like to work with you and it makes your your customer feel comfortable. They're like, Okay, I understand what the process is. And the more like I said before, the more you can tell them not in the sales page. But just in general, the more you can tell them what it's like to work with you, the more they can visualize themselves working with you, and then it makes it a lot easier. So let's say a customer is looking at you and your competitor, if your competitor doesn't tell that story, you tell the story, they're more likely to go work with you, because you have like, they understand what the process is going to be like, they feel like they know you a little bit better. So make sure that you tell your story. So I think this is what I shared with with you guys in that link. So it's just, you know, the the 12349 of how to create those landing pages. And, and these are sales pages. And it's the same with the PDF. So that's what I just explained. So this is like how to make a website or a sales page. And then here is the article. So you need to write an article on LinkedIn as part of your credibility campaign. And an eye and and headlines are so important. as you can, you know, in the news, or you know, even when you're scrolling on the internet, something will catch your eye some headline, and you'll read that article. It's such a big deal. You know, headlines from like the 19. I love aces study. I guess newspaper advertorials from the 1930s just love the way that advertising was done back then. And they use a lot of those strategies. And so you know, the headline is everything. So for headlines, there's this thing if you google portant headline generator, it's a really great tool that you plug in your keyword. So whatever it is that you sell, or the value that you deliver, and it'll start sharing or like, you can generate a bunch of different headline ideas and find some ideas because headlines are hard to do properly. So now there's these awesome tools. When you're when you're writing this article, you want to make sure that you teach something. And maybe you've got like three paragraphs, you know, teach the, you know, 123 things, make sure you have bullet points short, really short paragraphs, because when people are on their phone, if your paragraph has maybe like more than two to three sentences, it starts getting like really chunky on the phone. So it's not like your English teacher wouldn't like this style of writing, just because of the way you break up the paragraphs. But that's how we need to write when we're writing on on digital, and then always have a call to action to everything that you do. what's what's the next step you want your customer to take.
Dafne Canales 40:49
This is the script, I just wanted to share, like a an example of how to connect with people on LinkedIn. So you have to do that connection request. And then what you want to do is you want to talk about, give them an indication of what it is that you do or what you're going to talk about. So I just highlighted here we were for this campaign, we were saying, we have a similar interest in organizing epic events, because further down in our conversation, and this is why you need to map everything out, I was going to talk to them about doing an event for for them, right, we were doing those holiday parties. So you want to start insinuating what it is that you're going to be talking about. This is just you know, a bunch of a bunch of text. But what I want you to take away from this is we we send that first connection request, once the person accepts, then we have a script for what we're going to say on on day one, and then another one on day three, and this can all be automated. And you can start on your own. But there's there's a bunch of tools, I'm actually I'll show you the tool that I use, I use expand d.io e x p a n di.io to automate these campaigns. And again, it's great software really easy to use, and lots of tutorials on it. So the first connection I make is, I share something, something valuable. The second connection again, you know, a lot of clients ask us for advice that it's important to say that you have clients, and then you know what you're talking about. And here's another resource that they share. It's a we're relationship building. And then the fourth point of contact is this is our sales pitch. Right. So we're saying you've only got nine days left, you know, we've been developing events for this is the third party credibility piece or we're you're naming some of the clients that you've worked with. And and then this is the what's in it for them paragraph, and here's the call to action, they can go and check out the PDF, or they can book an appointment using calendly I love calendly everyone should get an account, I think you can get a free account. And and that's how people can make appointments, and they can look at their schedule and look and see when you're available. Um, this one I wanted to show you is a LinkedIn profile optimization. So what you these are the different areas that you need to fix on LinkedIn to make yourself look awesome. So one is the background banner, make sure you have it, like branded or talking about what it is that you're doing. I like to run, you know, campaigns over quarters at least. So every quarter, you should have like a different campaign going on what you know, what's your focus for the quarter. And so holiday parties or you know, whatever it is, you just find something to highlight essentially. The other thing is, this is the headline. This part's the headline. And so we made it fun, because this this brand is really fun. So what I needed, you know, set up virtual, a virtual holiday party. So what happens is when people are searching for your name that shows up in the search, so that's important. And it's also like part of that seven second formula. When people come to this page, they know exactly what this lady does. On in the about section we did like a whole little script there, we used the same message that we did in in the script that I showed you before. So we used this part here. Just put it in there, we loaded the PDF into the featured section. And then inexperience we link the company page to the to the personal page and there's talk you know, fill this part out really nicely and then you have a good profile. So this is LinkedIn, but you know, just a just a message about looking for your ideal client using LinkedIn Sales Navigator. It's a paid upgrade. And I think you can do a basic search on the regular one. You can You can also do like a 30 day trial. But but don't buy LinkedIn Sales Navigator until your campaign is ready to go because you obviously start paying right away. So super, super powerful tool to search for the right people. And like I mentioned before I use expanding to do all the replies. So you can,
Dafne Canales 45:25
you can, you know, sort through people, you got to be like super organized if you're running these campaigns. So when we do LinkedIn cold calling campaigns, we reach out to about 2000 people a month per profile. So if we've got two business owners always try to do two business owners or two people to people's profile so that we're reaching out to 4000. Because remember, it's about that volume of conversations, and then, you know, coming down to the 10 people that you want to meet or whatever it is. So it's, you have to use automation to talk to 4000 people, not everybody talks at the same time. So you, you connect with 4000 people, and a certain amount of them will accept your connections, and a certain amount of them will will engage in conversation with you. And what we found in the campaigns is that we have to keep refining the audience. So we'll we'll send out messages, and sometimes it won't be the right person. And just just like in general as in your business, you're going to keep having to refine who it is that you you want to reach out to, you'll keep learning about. You know who that perfect person is for you. And then calendly is, is the other tool for appointment setting, which I really talked about. And then my last thing is on LinkedIn post, when you post on LinkedIn, or you post on on Facebook, my big message here is teach don't tell. So make sure you teach people every every time you post it's about teaching is about showing your expertise, one of the things you want to do is get people to stop scrolling. Remember that though only the first three lines are showing. So think about the seven second formula. Do you know is this interesting to people? Tell me why I should read this right. And I wanted to point out that LinkedIn posts and LinkedIn articles are two separate things, making videos is is great you can from the video, you can pull different articles, you can also pull quotes. In my social media strategy, what I do is I like to do like an article or something helpful, it could be a video, so some some big piece, that's my first year. And then for the rest of the month, I'll take little sections of that. So like, if you did like that big article with three major points, I'll take like that point number one, you know, share it later in the month. Point number two, share it later a month, or, like, go grab a sentence that was like that something cool in it. Make that into a quote. So reuse your content? Because it's it's very time consuming to create content. And and yeah, so you want to reuse it. And the other one is to share other experts advice. So when you're sharing, again on LinkedIn, you share some other expert you love their article write down why you love it's it's a it's kind of like a mistake to just, you know, people just reshare but they don't, you know, they understand that you're supposed to share expert articles. But the piece that they're missing is saying, Hey, I guys are guys, girls, everyone. I really like this because because of that now these three points. So then what happens is that expert article that expertise gets passed on to you. That's the psychological, you know, thought that people have is, is when you're able to summarize something that an expert wrote, it's that credibility gets passed on to you. And if anybody wants to connect with me on LinkedIn, that's that's my profile, Daphne canalis. And I will open it up to questions.
49:24
I'll jump in with a question if you don't mind me. Yeah, sure. So I know that you can advertise on LinkedIn, like paying LinkedIn to promote your posts and such. Is that an approach you would recommend over like Google ads, or do you think there's enough value in that? What would you recommend other more classic digital marketing?
Dafne Canales 49:48
Can you tell me what your business is? Because it you know, I'm like an accountant where it's like, it depends. You know, they always say they're like, Can I do this? So yeah, everything is It depends on what you're selling who you're talking to those two things, essentially, what approach you should take. So why don't you tell me a little bit
50:07
about your business? So I personally don't have a business. I'm kind of just asking in general, but for example, let's say if it was a business to business, illegal trade company, what would you recommend for that one?
Dafne Canales 50:19
Like a? Okay, so like a lawyer, is that we said legal? Yeah. So let's say it's a lawyer that wants to sell to two businesses, right, a corporate lawyer, let's say, okay, so a corporate lawyer. Yeah, so LinkedIn ads are actually never good. They're good for like, universities, or like these big software companies. And they're more about like, brand awareness. Right. So like, you might see HubSpot, having ads, but they're super expensive. And they don't generate good results, because of the way LinkedIn platform. It has been made. Right? It wasn't, that wasn't their intention. Whereas, for example, Facebook ads, the their whole, I mean, after they built their, you know, the community piece, they're so strong at their advertising, as we've seen, they get in trouble now, you know, with their with their political campaign. So because they're so good at it. So for business to business, Google ads are really, really good. Again, super expensive, and people have to be searching. Because what happens with Google Ads is it's an auction based system. So if you have all these corporate lawyers paying for Google as they drive the price up of ads, right, and the Google ads, also, if your customer does, if you're doing something innovative, your customer doesn't know what you're doing. They're not going to Google that right. So if you if you don't if you're not on page, one of Google, yes, Google ads are super important. And you want to have that. The other thing with Google Ads is if you drive traffic to your website, through Google ads, you're actually helping your to increase your ranking in the search engine. So there's all these like different things, and you kind of have to, you know, pull together a strategy. But for a first time business owner, those are super expensive to do, right. So you got to do more of like the guerilla style that, like I said, with LinkedIn, the conversation building, and and even, it's not even just a new business owner. So these ladies in San Francisco that had that event, they were, you know, a multi million dollar company, and but nobody was going to be searching for virtual holiday parties, because that's new. Right? So we had to do the conversational approach to get them clients. Does that help? Absolutely.
52:37
Thank you.
Dafne Canales 52:39
No problem.
52:41
Hi, I have a question. Um, my business is a cleaning business, we do residential and commercial. And over the pandemia time, I kind of started clicking into Facebook and LinkedIn and try to find my path into how to use this social media to be out there. It has been a pain, sometimes I get frustrated, I stopped clicking. But um, I have a really hard time finding the needs and how to market the commercial side. Their residential has been so easy in terms that what we do is just easier to show, right there is more connection with people moving out moving in the struggles that they're they have and things like this, their commercial side, oh my gosh, I can pinpoint for the life of me what to do. And LinkedIn, I get frustrated on LinkedIn, because I don't even know where to play in what am I doing? And I get lost into my targets. I said, doing a little bit of business to business, like sending connections and testing diag, that kind of niche that I need, like procurement people, manager constructions, things like that. But I find it so hard. Yeah.
Dafne Canales 54:23
It's hard. I totally understand. I'm actually I'm not. I mean, social media is so powerful. And I don't I don't like it. Like personally, because I just, you know, I'm not like a personal fan, but I'm a business fan of social media. Right. My question is,
54:42
what do you use to create what kind of platform you use to create all that content for LinkedIn? Because it's really clear for me that Facebook is more like to
Dafne Canales 54:55
purge Yes.
54:59
Yeah. Like, okay, people straight face mysterious.
Dafne Canales 55:03
You don't post pictures of your of your cats on LinkedIn, they don't like it. Yeah. So yeah, so that when you use for that, um, so on LinkedIn, you can use Hootsuite, if you've heard of Hootsuite, I'll just write it in the chat. Yeah, Hootsuite is a good tool to post. And yeah, or doing it manually. But it's about creating, like a, like I said before a schedule for yourself, because just being like, super organized about what you're gonna say. Yeah. Oh, just a second. And I think with with LinkedIn, yeah, it's about finding the right person to talk to and, and if you saw the, the script that I had there, it's like having that those series of conversation. And it's about relationship building. Right. So I think you need to figure out, you know, what size company you're going after, because in the LinkedIn Sales Navigator, you can do a search for, you know, like a 10. I think it's like zero to 10, or, you know, something like that, and then 11 to 50. So you have to be like, really specific about what size of company and then the next step is, you know, is it a certain geography, we'll probably it's only Calgary. And, you know, so you'd have to, like, keep looking. And some of the smaller businesses, so it depends, you know, like, there's like, the foothills industrial area, and there's, there's tons of businesses there. Those business owners are not on LinkedIn. So it just really, like super depends what kind of company you're looking for. Right? So with those business owners, you actually might find them on Facebook, because maybe they're, they're looking for something for their, you know, they're they're chatting with their family. So again, it's like so specific to like, knowing who your your audience is, right, and figuring out where they're hanging out. Right. And everybody's online now. So they're, they're either on, you know, they gotta
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be somewhere. Yeah, they're
Dafne Canales 57:07
there somewhere. So it's just like understanding really, really well who it is that you want to work with. And then you you, you find where they are. But yeah, so if they're not on fate on LinkedIn, if you can't find the right company, then you can try ads on Facebook, because you can do some broad ads. Like I said, before, there's really clear on Hey, does your business need cleaning? why that's like a terrible headline, but you use the headline generator? And you know, and and yeah, and see if people click on it. But if you're going for bigger companies, yeah, they're they're on LinkedIn, like the ones who are maybe, I don't know, 52. It is super depends on your clan, right?
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for Facebook, when you run these ads, it gives you the option, okay? Do you want to put $3 $5? Right, and the audience that it will target it increases? So of course, if you put $1,000 it shows that is going to show into 10,000 people? What was the tipping point here in your target in that you can hit that mark without paying nama? Yeah.
Dafne Canales 58:22
Okay. So actually, I'm really glad you brought that up. Because on and Facebook, you you know how, when you do a post, it's like, do you want to boost this post or whatever you wish never boost a post, you actually need to go into business? Sorry, it's called Facebook Business Manager. It's like this back end tool. Right? business.facebook.com it's how you access it. I'll just type that one in. Yeah. And and what you want to do is you want to study everything you can about the way that there's so many amazing tools. So the one that we use is called Facebook leads. So it's like these, a form that gets filled out if it's a very specific strategy. So if you google Facebook,
59:04
I have never done the leads. Yeah,
Dafne Canales 59:07
it's really, really cool if done properly. So it has to you have to create, like that PDF sales page, you do that in the Facebook lead form. And you know that every strip, like everything that I talked about can be translated into Facebook. And I think the biggest lesson that I would share with you ladies is to really educate yourself in marketing. So with Facebook, you can take a free course is called Facebook blueprint. It's offered by Facebook and just learn everything that Facebook has, because it is such a powerful tool and that's going to be your biggest like ally, your biggest asset if you no matter what business you have, if you're a savvy marketer, your you'll be able to stretch your dollars, right and because it's really, really hard to find, even people you know, when you hire someone to do marketing, there's so many different kinds of marketers You'd never know, like, do they really know what they're doing? You know, and you so you have to have even like, a high level, some knowledge about how marketing works so that you can you know that the the person you hired is doing the right thing for you and be really scientific about it. So make it like a lab experiment where you write down the numbers, you you see your conversion, it's so important to treat marketing, like, like a science experiment. So yeah, so there is. So again, to your question about, you know, what's the point like, Where am I? How do I get the best results? It depends. Right here and is running like this really great campaigns. And yeah, trying to not it's an it's, it's, it's, again, that kind of dangerous, because you can spend lots of money and get no results, right, like, so many people spend 1000s and get nothing, but you should be getting amazing results for 1000s of dollars, right?
1:01:00
Yeah, yeah, it's, uh, I find it that is, is a hidden mess. When you don't know what you're doing. Exactly. You're just clicking and yeah, put in just $3 $5. Right. And eventually, you start getting this sense. What you're doing,
Dafne Canales 1:01:24
yeah, takes it takes a lot. Like we've run a lot of experiments over the years, right, spend, you know, hundreds of 1000s of dollars of client client funds. And that's why I know, you know, but you don't want that for yourself. Right? Yeah. So So the other resource that I would share is that if you guys know about Upwork, it's a place where you can hire freelance marketers. And so you put a proposal on there. And, and I would, if you're trying to do Facebook, I would definitely hire an expert. And it could just be an expert to teach you how to do stuff, right? Because you you want to know and maybe you look, you know, you hire them to do it for you. But you want to understand it first if Facebook is going to be your your go to. But other other than that is like take the time to learn all the things that Facebook has, because it is such a powerful and a ginormous tool in there. When you go into the Facebook business manager is like, there's so many
1:02:26
games I know. Yeah. Do you recommend boosting or not at all? Or just doing the ad?
Dafne Canales 1:02:34
Just the ad never boosts? Yeah, never boost? Yeah. Because you got to be super strategic about it. And remember the ads when you do a campaign, it's not just one ad, there's like you got to create the funnel, right? You have to create a funnel of ads for your, for your campaign or you won't get the results that you deserve.
1:02:54
Thank you.
Dafne Canales 1:02:56
You're welcome. There's a question here. What things do we need to include? Oh, in a newsletter, is that what the question is? Yes. Can whose question is that?
1:03:12
Me, Rahel? What things need to if let's say we launch our prisoners, and we print a pamphlet to introduce our business beside to put our products and address from your experience? What do you recommend to attract customers? What do you recommend from my experience? I saw it's forever be i subscribe there. There put some recipes from that we can make breakfast from Honey, what's your experience? Do we need to add
Dafne Canales 1:03:46
tips or? Yeah, definitely. And what's your what's your business?
1:03:51
in general? In general, I just was thinking let's say it's baking bread.
Dafne Canales 1:03:58
Okay. Okay. Yeah. So if you're, if you're making your, let's say you're selling bread, if you're sending a newsletter to people, and and i think if i back up a little bit, you want people to sign up to your newsletter, and I never want you to call it a newsletter. It should always be like the VIP club, the inner circle, you can actually Google you know, awesome names for for newsletters. There's like all these articles from marketers about that, because nobody wants to actually be on a newsletter, but they do want to get information from experts. So let's say you're your bread baking expert, I would actually do okay, I have a formula. And it's called helpful story. So the first one is a helpful story. It's like teaching people things. So maybe you share some of like how you make the bread so that people can kind of get that inside view of what it is that you do. So helpful story. The next one is client story. So maybe you share how people are eating your bread or like who what kind of people are eating your bread. And that might be like, Oh, you know, this is great. This one's great for breakfast this other bread is great with with the dinnertime, and here's some pictures of my customers. And you can even talk about your customer. Because when you share your customer, people start to read, they're like, Oh, that's like me, and you know, I should go buy more bread, that kind of thing. So the other the third piece is talking about your business or sharing about your team, you or your team. So that would be like a story about you. And you know, maybe you talk about what you're passionate about in your business, you find an angle, that makes sense. And then the last one would be something like tips or recipes, or, you know, but so it's always about being like as valuable as you can so that people will keep opening, opening it. So just try to think of as much as you can. And maybe you know, there's another one where it's like you share other resources. Hey, we're all bread lovers. And here are some other things that you might like as well. So when I open that email, I there's a lady Ann Handley, she has his great newsletter. That's her name. And I'm like, I look forward to her newsletter. And one time, I hadn't read it for like a super long time. And I was gonna, I went to click the unsubscribe. And so as I scrolled through the newsletter, I was like, Oh, this is amazing. And I sent her an email, like, I always am subscribed, but your newsletter is so good, there's so much value in it that I decided not to. So that's what you want to do for yourself is try to make it like, Oh, this is awesome. I love receiving this newsletter. Every month, it's really important. And it's a great way to communicate with your clients. Getting into somebody's inbox is so amazing. It's like, you know, visiting their home visiting their mind. Right. So you, you definitely want to figure out how to do that. How to get sent emails. Does that help?
Dafne Canales 1:07:15
Any other questions?
1:07:16
Sorry, about that same newsletter topic. Obviously, the way you do an ad at the beginning, probably is yourself sending all these emails by yourself, right?
Dafne Canales 1:07:35
And I would actually recommend MailChimp as a tool to
1:07:39
get it really comes through, okay, let's say I call MailChimp. And I want to set up something they, I they sell kind of like packages of emails, right? If you want to send 100,000 or 200,000. And there it goes different prices into the emails, all those emails that day again, where my newsletter goes to do I need to provide like a data list of emails? Yes, yeah. One where they used to send
Dafne Canales 1:08:17
No, no. So you can, you can buy lists. So that's like a whole separate service. So MailChimp is a software program. And you can design a newsletter in MailChimp. And then you load your email list that you have, and it sends it out and says, Hi, john, hi, Daphne. Hi. So it customize it a little bit. But the MailChimp software is for creating something pretty. And you can actually, this also brings up a different point is your newsletter, it can be pretty, or it can be simple, it can look like a regular email. So you can try the two different strategies. And you'll see if it's, you know, it just again, depends on your audience. And it's just two different approaches. And for one of my clients, we do the pretty newsletter, and then we follow it up with a what looks like a personal email, right? To you know, to get more conversions. But then the other thing that you asked about is a list so buying lists of people is is totally a thing. But the problem with with Canadian laws is you're not allowed to email them without their permission. So you have to be like super careful in the States. We can sway it's a lot easier to do business in the state. Because Yeah, so yeah, you can use Active Campaign. There's like so many different tools. Yeah, MailChimp is just one there's Yeah, tons of different tools to to send out newsletters and sequences. And then the newsletter area is is like its own expertise. There are people who are like hardcore experts on you know, getting people to sign up. To stop and running full campaigns by newsletter, but the tricky part is the list, right? How do you get the list of people? So I'm not sure how to, you know what, like, what advice I can give you because for example, with your cleaning business, let's say that you've got the emails of all the people, you know that you want to target, but then you you have to walk that delicate line of unsolicited emails. I don't know. You just have to find out what the rules are so that you don't break. Thank you. Anyway, anybody else?
Dafne Canales 1:10:45
I think that's it, Ben. Thank you for having me, ladies. I as I said, you know, reach out to me on LinkedIn, I'm I love helping entrepreneurs. So if there's other questions I can help you with. I'm planning on creating some online courses for my girlfriends, you know, step by step, helping them with their business. So if anybody wants like, I'm going to do the LinkedIn campaign. So if that's going to help any of you please reach out to me on I'll share my email here. Yeah, so always here to help other entrepreneurs.

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